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King David’s big, dark secret


The prophet Samuel anointing David as the future king of Israel.

The prophet Samuel anointing David as the future king of Israel.

[by Dean Smith] There was a big, dark secret in David’s life that few people are aware of. It’s not that David tried to keep it secret, but many of us simply fail to connect the dots.

When we study David’s life, there are a number of Biblical passages that at first read seem quite puzzling. One such passage is 1 Samuel 16:1-13.

God had just rejected Saul as king of Israel and commissioned the prophet Samuel to anoint one of the sons of Jessee of Bethlehem as the next king (v 1). Samuel approached the elders of Bethlehem and arranged the meeting. Once Jessee and his sons had gathered, Samuel quickly realized none of the boys standing before him was the one God had chosen.

Puzzled, Samuel asked if there were any other sons and was told the youngest, David, was attending the flock. Samuel ordered David brought before him and anointed the young shepherd boy as the next king of Israel.

I was always curious as to why David was not initially included. Traditionally, most believe David was omitted because he was the youngest, but I don’t believe this theory  holds up under closer scrutiny of the Biblical account.

When Samuel first approached Bethlehem’s elders, the Bible tells us they were “trembling” (v 4). They were terrified of the prophet. When he said jump, the only pertinent question was how high.

So when Samuel requested a special meeting with Jessee and his sons, all were expected to show up. There must have been some convincing reason not to extend an invitation to David.

Why was David excluded?

I believe David actually provides the answer to this question in Psalm 51 penned in the chaotic aftermath of his adulterous affair with Bathsheba.

In verse 5, King David wrote: “Behold I was brought forth in iniquity and in sin my mother conceived me.”

So what was David trying to tell us in this verse?

Traditionally, most believe David was explaining his affair was due to the sin nature that plagues all mankind because of Adam and Eve’s original sin. However, this does not explain why David committed adultery (though all humans have the same sin nature, not all commit adultery).

Setting aside all fancy theological interpretations, we need to interpret verse 5 simply as it reads — “in sin my mother conceived me” means exactly what it says — David’s mother conceived him in an act of sin. She committed adultery and David was the byproduct of this infidelity.

This explains why David was not initially included in the meeting with Samuel as technically it could be argued David was not a true son of Jessee. However, God did include David as part of Jessee’s family much in the same way Jesus was considered a son of Joseph though conceived by the Holy Spirit.

Who was David’s mother?

This is where it gets interesting. No where in scripture is David’s mother mentioned by name. This is a bit unusual, as mothers of several ancient prophets and patriarchs are not only mentioned, but many times written about, as they often played a significant role in the upbringing of their children — such as Moses’ mother Jochebed (Exodus 6:20) and Samuel’s mother Hannah (1 Samuel 1:1-20).

However, David’s mother was different — as a wife who committed adultery, she brought shame upon Jessee and his family and it’s not surprising her name was excised from the Biblical account.

There are several possibilities on what happened here — Jessee’s wife had an affair with another man or Jessee had an affair with another woman (married or unmarried).

Perhaps David’s mother was a prostitute. It was not uncommon for children born from such an illicit relationship to live with the father.

In the book of Judges, we have a story about Jephath who was conceived when his father Gilead had sexual relations with a prostitute.

11 Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty warrior. His father was Gilead; his mother was a prostitute. Gilead’s wife also bore him sons, and when they were grown up, they drove Jephthah away. “You are not going to get any inheritance in our family,” they said, “because you are the son of another woman.” (Judges 11:1-2 NIV)

Though conceived through this illicit encounter, Jephath nevertheless grew up in Gilead’s house who took responsibility for raising the child.

But Jephath’s arrival created a tremendous tension with the sons born of the true mother. They eventually drove Jephath out of the family to prevent him from receiving any of his father’s inheritance (v 2).

If David’s mother was also a prostitute it would explain why she wasn’t mentioned and I suspect it was the brothers who pushed not to have David included when Samuel called for a meeting with the sons of Jesse.

David’s miserable early life

David refers to his mother one more time in Psalm 69 which — next to Psalm 22 — is the most quoted Psalm in the New Testament. It is generally believed Psalm 69 covers David’s early life prior to his anointing by Samuel.

In verse 8, David writes: “I have become estranged from my brothers, And an alien to my mother’s sons.”

It is interesting how David seems to talk about two groups of children. He was estranged from his brothers (Jessee’s family) and an alien to his mother’s children. It implies both sets of children rejected David supporting the idea that his mother was either a prostitute (with other children) or possibly another married woman whose husband rejected David, forcing Jessee to look after his illegitimate son.

According to Strong’s dictionary, the Hebrew word for estranged “zur” means to “turn one aside from lodging” and can also refer to a person who has come from “adultery – to come from another man” or another woman. In fact, the word is rooted in the Hebrew word “mamzer” which means bastard or illegitimate.

Zur intimates David was not included in regular family activities such as meals. In fact this may be what verse 21 suggests when David says they gave me “gall for food” and “vinegar to drink.” It appears the brothers made David’s life miserable.

One thing oddly missing in Psalm 69 is any mention of David’s relationship with Jessee. Not once did David point to Jessee as the source of his misery. Neither do we see any hint of conflict when Jessee asked David to take food to his brothers who were fighting the Philistines, but as soon as David showed up at the army camp, you immediately see the animosity between David and his brothers (1 Samuel 17: 28-29).

The conflict between David and his half-brothers indicates it may have been the brothers who demanded David not be included in the meeting with Samuel.

Psalm 69 also addresses the misery David endured growing up. Because of his mother’s sin, David’s childhood was full of loneliness and rejection. He speaks of hours spent crying because of the rejection (v 3). He explains his frustration of being punished for a sin he did not commit (v 4) – his mother’s sin. Worse, he became the object of mockery as the drunkards sang about his plight (v 26).

David’s life also became a byword or proverb — literally a living warning — of what happens to those whose mother commits adultery.

“When I made sackcloth my clothing, I became a byword to them. Those who sit in the gate talk about me…” (v 11b, 12a)

What was particularly hurtful was those who “sit at the gate” used him as an example (v 12) of what happens when people sin. The term “sit at the gate” refers to the elders of the city who sat at the gates and made judgment on cases (see Proverbs 31:23; Deut 21:19; 22:15). These would be the same elders of Bethlehem who did not think it necessary to include David when Samuel wanted to meet with Jessee and his sons.

David then adds he carried the personal shame of his mother’s sin.

You know my reproach and my shame and my dishonor; 
All my adversaries are before You.
 Reproach has broken my heart and I am so sick
 And I looked for sympathy, but there was none,
 And for comforters, but I found none. (v 19, 20)

No one cared that David was the innocent byproduct of his mother’s sin. It was Jewish belief children could be punished for the sins of the parents. We see a hint of this in the gospels, when the disciples — after stumbling upon on a blind man — asked Jesus if he was being punished for the sins of his parents or his own sins (John 9:2,3).

Though despised and rejected by his family and humiliated by those in his home town, God saw David’s heart and how he responded to the rejection and the ugliness that filled his childhood and chose this boy as the next king of Israel.

Through this we gain a keen insight in the redemptive nature of God, who will use anyone despite their background and heritage as long as they have a heart for God.//

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    • Thanks for your comment and link. I had heard of this Jewish tradition, but there was no Biblical mention of it, so I left it out. I think it is easy to fall into a trap of trying to make our Biblical heroes appear better than they really are. The fact is they had their struggles just like we do. Some, like David, came from very rough backgrounds, but God chose to use them nevertheless. It doesn’t matter our back ground or what we have done, God will still use us, if we give our hearts to Him.

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  1. Yes I agree with you and I really enjoyed your article, Dean. I’m writting a novel about David’s life and childhood and I was looking for more information and historical background. I think that the value of God’s choice by annoiting David as King of Israel, takes much more sense now… He choses people for the heart despite of the history or past you have. Amazing! thanks for the reply and the article. My first language is spanish so my website is in that language, but if you still want to take a look, you are more than welcome. http://www.diegocervera.com

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    • Diego

      Thanks for your kind words. I wish you all the best on your novel. I checked out your website. I see you have written a number of books already — I am impressed. I used Google translate so I only have a rough idea of what was written, but I liked what I saw. Good job.

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  2. I doubt David was the lineage of Christ but the son of an illegitimate affair.
    How could that be?
    I believe the his birth would have to be from a union with Jesse (her husband) and his mother (Jesse’s wife) regardless of the strained relationship between them at that time.

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    • Well, I believe David’s lineage through Christ is well proven and straight forward. Genealogies were very important to the Jews. It is not something we do in our culture as much. As For my assertion that David was illegitimate, I can’t prove it, but will let the story and the Biblical record speak for itself. I spoke on this once in a church setting and had someone interrupt me in the middle of my message to tell me that I was wrong, so I am used to it lol.

      However, when David says “I was conceived in sin” (Pslam 51:5), you must twist the scripture in order to have it say something than what it is clearly saying.

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  3. Read these please!
    Ruth 4. 22 And Obed begat Jesse, and Jesse begat David.
    1 Samuel 17. 12 Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehemjudah, whose name was Jesse
    1Chronicle 2. 13-15 >> 13 And Jesse begat his firstborn Eliab, and Abinadab the second, and Shimma the third, 14 Nethaneel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, 15 Ozem the sixth, David the seventh:
    So Bible clearly claims, that David’s father was Jesse, he had begotten David, no somebody else.
    There is a difference about numbers of Jesse’s sons (7 or 8), but no argument about genetical relation between Jesse and David.
    Yes, we don’t know anything about the mother, Bible doesn’t report her. But we must keep our focus on true facts that Bible says.
    If we don’t understand some part of the Word, we must not explain our presumptions, immaginations or any legends against the clear Word.

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    • Thanks for your comment. Yes, I agree there are those verses, but it is possible that they refer to Jessee as simply the father of David in the same way that Joseph raised Jesus as his son.

      Based on Psalms 51:5, when David says he was conceived in sin, most Jewish commentators take that at face value and believe he was conceived in an act of sin.

      Another possibility is that Jessee committed adultery with another woman and David was conceived through that relationship.

      The Talmud which is an ancient Jewish commentary had a different take on this. First based on Psalm 51:5 where David said he was conceived in sin, they had no doubt that David was conceived through an illicit relationship.

      However, one story out of the Talmud stated that Jessee had divorced his wife, probably because of an illicit affair. Later after the divorce, his former wife briefly came back to Jessee, which was forbidden under the Law (Deuteronomy 24:4), and David was conceived at this time.

      Thanks for adding to this discussion.

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      • Margaret says

        To remain Biblical, if anything, it would have to be Jesse’s indiscretion with another woman, and not the son of another man with David’s mother. The Bible clearly states more than once, as noted above, that David was the son of Jesse. Moreover, in Matthew, when describing the lineage of Christ, it also plainly states that David was in that line going all the way back – meaning, that the lineage was pure – going back to Abraham. It was promised to Abraham, that to HIS SEED, which was Christ, that the nations would be blessed. So no, David was not the son of another man with David’s mother. That would make him not the legitimate seed of Abraham. Somehow, something happened with Jesse , as has been noted.

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      • Margaret says

        Hi, another comment – this is in addition to my other comment posted today.
        The scenario that makes the most sense is what you said above, about Jesse coming back with his wife after she had an illicit affair with another man. They perhaps got divorced, and then at one point got back together, and then had David.
        If they were divorced at that point , they must have reconciled. We know this because in one passage, David sends his mother and father to go live with the King of Moab for a while to keep them safe (I Sam 22:3-4). So obviously they got back together and stayed together after David was born.
        So let’s say Jesse’s wife had an indiscretion with another man. Jesse puts her away. Then they get back together. This is “taboo” for everyone because of the law, but Jesse does it anyway. Then they have David. Then David would have been considered a bastard because he came from Jesse’s wife who had the indiscretion and whom Jesse divorced, even though they got back together. The stigma of her sins would have stuck – normally because people are so unforgiving and judgmental.
        Isn’t this what happened with Hosea as well? His wife committed adultery and yet God tells him to take her back. And this is a picture of God with Israel, and how they sinned against Him and yet He wanted her back.
        This would fit with the compassionate heart of God, who went through this with Israel, and still wanted to reconcile with them, as stated in Jeremiah 3:1:
        “They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man’s, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.”
        I say this because I do not believe that God would allow fornication in the blood line of Christ.
        Jesse and his wife reconciling would show God considered them to still be married and then reconciled. So this “indiscretion” with Jesse and his former wife – was them coming back together, after she had an illicit affair. Otherwise, there would be fornication in the line of Christ , the bloodline, and that cannot be possible. I believe this was one of the reasons why God did not allow David and Bathsheba’s first child to live – because it was born out of wedlock and in fornication. There were foreigners, yes, in Christ’s bloodline, like Rahab the harlot, but she still married into the bloodline.
        Anyway, this is more to consider.

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      • Margaret says

        Sorry, one more comment to my own comment below! I said that God would not allow fornication in the bloodline of Christ – his natural fatherly bloodline, and yet there it is in Matthew 1 – Judah begot Perez by Tamar…. that was clearly out of wedlock and in fornication….

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      • I agree with this last comment, the child is an innocent byproduct of the parents’s sin. And actually, I believe God raised up David to show how far His grace extends. And again the Perez situation in someways is similar to what we see happening with Jessee who I suspect had an illicit relationship with an unnamed prostitute. Thanks for your comments.

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    • Tehillah-James says

      I enjoy the reading but I actually agree with D Nagy Tamas. The bible has not hidden sins done by certain people. Even in the GENEOLOGY of Jesus, where sin was involved it was exposed. Eg Solomon by Uria’s wife, Pereze by Tamer, etc. Looking on that patterns in the geniology of Jesus, David’s father would have been exposed. I believe that that would have been exposed too. So it can be dangerous for us to assume that based on Psalms 51:5 David was born in adultry. If we must not interpret it like Dean Smill is asserting let us not also interpret Ruth 4:22, 1 Sam 17:12; 1 Chro 2:13-15. Scriptures D Nagy Tamas has pointed. If the facts Dean is using is the story of David excluded amongst the sons of jersey when Samuel came and Psalms 51:5. There is not enough evidance to believe it. There is more evidance that David was the son of Jessey that those two scenarios. The bible was also very clear that though Jesus was the son of Joseph, it was clear that Joseph was not the biological son of Joseph. The bible has not left any dark areal of anybody, it exposed sins of all men who where used by God. David, Abraham, Jacob, Samuel who couldn’t raise his children well. I believe that that which the bible has not revealed we mustn’t try and bring a revelations of it, lest we end up in error. Thanks but I like your writing Dean.

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      • Thank for your comment. You made some good points. However, I don’t think the Bible was hiding David’s lineage. When in Psalm 51:5, David says I was conceived in sin, he is very clear about what happened. Many have interpreted the verse to mean something else. I have chosen to interpret the verse literally. But certainly there is room for differing opinions on this. Thanks again for your reasoned comment. As I said you made some valid points.

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      • Enid Riley says

        I quite agree with you. Some many have accepted the explanation given about David’s parents without doing research for themselves. What about prayerfully seeking the help of the Holy Spirit for understanding of God’s word.

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    • BW Zishwili says

      I still believe that David was the son of Jesse even though Jesse doubted this.
      The bible cannot lie by listing David as the son of Jesse

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  4. Why do you think “possibilities” are stronger than clear claims in the Word of God?
    We can read two times “Jesse begat David”
    Ruth 4. 22 And Obed begat Jesse, and Jesse begat David.
    1Chronicle 2. 13-15 >> 13 And Jesse begat his firstborn Eliab, and Abinadab the second, and Shimma the third, 14 Nethaneel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, 15 Ozem the sixth, David the seventh:

    All the literatures out of Bible don’t named as “Holy Word”. No Talmud, nor Midrash, non other historical or poemic heritages named as “Holy Word”.
    So imaginations or “let’s figure out” can not compare with written facts in the Holy Word.
    If we create explanations based on David’s Psalms mentioned by you above, why don’t we say trees have got hands for clapping, and hills have got legs for jumping? Are these pictures allegorical or literal?

    We maybe don’t understand what David had been thought behind his sentences. But it doesn’t give us a right to figure out any comments. And further more how we get the right to accuse Jesse with illegitim sexual activities?! Bible doesn’t say this! We must not say this!

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    • I believe that because David said “And in sin my mother conceived me” Psalm 51:5 (literally an “act of sin”). Since relations between a married man and woman is not considered sin, then something else must have happened.

      Either Jesse or David’s mother had an affair.

      Like you said, we are not told clearly told what it was. But David did not try to cover up what had happened.

      All the ancient Jewish commentators had no doubt that David was conceived in an illicit act because they interpreted the verse simply as it says. In the Talmud, they were simply trying to understand what had happened, because based on their understanding of the Hebrew there was no doubt sin was involved.

      It is only more recent Bible teachers that have tried to have this verse say something else than what it clearly says.

      To me it shows that God is not a respecter of persons. It does not matter what your background is, God will use anyone who seeks after Him.

      I encourage people to study it out and decide for themselves. You have added some good points that show the other side of the argument.

      Obviously we are going to disagree on this, but that won’t be the first time.

      Thanks and God bless

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    • No I am not rejecting original sin, there are many passages that speak of original sin such as “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23. I absolutely believe in original sin.

      Certainly that has been the traditional understanding of Psalm 51:5, but I am wondering if there is room for a more literal translation of the words “And in sin my mother conceived me?”

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  5. There are some other translations:
    NET (New English Translation): 5 ​​​​​​​Look, I was guilty of sin from birth, a sinner the moment my mother conceived me.
    HCSB (Holman Bible): 5 Indeed, I was guilty when I was born; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
    BBE (Bible in Basic English): Truly, I was formed in evil, and in sin did my mother give me birth.
    CEB (Common English Bible): Yes, I was born in guilt, in sin, from the moment my mother conceived me.
    CJB (Complete Jewish Bible): True, I was born guilty, was a sinner from the moment my mother conceived me.
    NIV: Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

    There is no mentioned in the Holy Bible if David’s mom or dad would’ve committed any kind of illegal sexual affair. This same Bible speaks David’s affair with Bathsheba; Reuben’s affair with Bilhah, etc.

    “Traditional understanding” … Well, there are some Sages have been thought this. These same Sages had been improved that David didn’t commit adultary with Bathsheba, and wasn’t guilty in death of Uriah…
    Traditional understanding many times goes against the Holy Word of God.

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    • Thanks for those verses. Like I said I believe in original sin and there are a number of verses, aside from Psalm 51, that show this. People can see your comments and read the article and decide for themselves. We need to study the Bible carefully and I hope this discussion causes others to look at it carefully. You seem to be posting your comments at different times. Do you live in North America or are you from somewhere else?

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  6. Arman says

    Psalm 51:5- “Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.” KJV

    This is a Hebrew poetic parallelism, with the second line of the verse saying the same thing as the first line in a slightly different way.

    The subject of this verse is NOT the state or constitution of David’s nature as a sinner at, or before, his birth. The subject is, as the verse clearly states, the `circumstances’ of his conception- the sexual union which produced him was an act of sin, and addresses the unrighteousness of his mother’s act, not anything (such as a sin nature) inherent within himself.

    The NIV’s version of this verse is an INTERPRETATION, not a translation: “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.”

    David had two half-sisters (Zeruiah, Abigail)…..:

    1CHR 2:13-16 13 “And Jesse begat his firstborn Eliab, and Abinadab the second, and Shimma the third, 14 Nethaneel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, 15 Ozem the sixth, David the seventh: 16 Whose sisters were Zeruiah, and Abigail. And the sons of Zeruiah; Abishai, and Joab, and Asahel, three. 17 And Abigail bare Amasa: and the father of Amasa was Jether the Ishmeelite.”

    ….and the father of David’s half-sisters was not Jesse, but Nahash: 2Sam 17:25 “And Absalom made Amasa captain of the host instead of Joab: which Amasa was a man’s son, whose name was Ithra an Israelite, that went in to Abigail the daughter of Nahash, sister to Zeruiah Joab’s mother.”

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  7. What is your opinion about NET (New English Translation), HCSB (Holman Bible), BBE (Bible in Basic English), CEB (Common English Bible, CJB (Complete Jewish Bible)?
    Well, I am not a scholar of Hebrew language, so I’m not able to compare any Bible translations, I can’t say: this is less holy, that is more holy. I believe KJV and NIV are equal, no difference in ranks. Both of these and all the other translations try to put original authentic text into the spoken language of time of translation.
    You wrote: “This is a Hebrew poetic parallelism”… Well, genre itself of this psalm is poem. Words, sentences, pictures are poetic tools, which express the heart of the writer. In this Psalm 51 David speaks about his own sin against God, Bathsheba and Uriah. He doesn’t speaks anybody else’s sin. Cocluding David’s parent’s sin from this psalm is unbiblical.
    Bible clearly speaks people’s sin. No hides that. No matter who was the sinner. Therefor we know Adam and Eve’s disobedience, Cain’s hate, Lot’s daughters incest, Jacob’s cheat, Moses’s anger, David’s adultary and bloodshed, Solomon’s idolatry, Judas’s betray, Ananias and Sapphira’s lie, Peter’s hypocrisy and so on…
    If Jesse or David’s mom would’ve made any illegal sexual affair, Bible would’ve reported that surely. Nobody ought to scrape a Psalm for some hidden dark secret. There is no there. Scraping person can find himself on the unbiblical ground, full of legends, stories, imaginations, assumptions, etc. But it is not the Holy Word of God.

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    • I am not sure what version Juan uses but my preference is the New American Standard which I believe more accurately translates the Bible than many other versions.

      One way is how they translate Exodus 20:5. The NASV properly translates the verse saying that the “iniquity” (awon) of the parents will be passed on to the children. Many versions use the word “sin” which is completely different from iniquity. There is a big difference between iniquity and sin and it is a way to test a version’s accuracy. In Psalm 51:5, David says he was conceived in sin and born into iniquity. Two different Hebrew words with two different meanings. The Exodus passage has the word for iniquity but many versions translate it sin.

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  8. 1. Bible uses quite few expressions to sign acts against God: sin (chatta’ah), iniquity (avon), transgression (pesha), wickedness, evil deeds (ra), etc. But these are not technical terms or definitions, which mean the same exact things all through the Bible. There are at least 50 verses in OT both sin and iniquity refer the very same act wherein.
    I agree what Arman wrote: “This is a Hebrew poetic parallelism, with the second line of the verse saying the same thing as the first line in a slightly different way.”

    2. Sins or sinful actions are so many kinds. Why are you so convinced, that David’s mom conceived in a wicked, sinful, unclean way? Let me repeat, in Psalm 51 David speaks about his own sin, not his mom’s sin. It is important what kind of glasses we read this scripture with.

    3. Why can’t you accept if her sin was the “original sin”? In Brit HaHadashah (hebrew translation of New Testamant) Rom 3.23 “for all have sinned” uses חָטָא, like Psalm 51.5 חַטָּא

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  9. patricia says

    The main thing about David is that hé sought out the will of GOD.GOD JEHOVAH Was the GOD OF DAVID.ISNT THAT ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IN AND TRUST GODS CHOICE OF ANOINTING DAVID AS HIS REPRESENTATIVE.GODS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS.THERE WAS NO ONE WITHOUT SIN BEFORE JESUS CAME AND NO ONE AFTER HIM WITHOUT SIN.IS IT TO OUR MERIT TO SPEND TIME ON SUCH À TOPIC WHEN IN TRUTH THERE IS NO SPIRITUAL GROWTH THAT COMES FROM IT.DAVIDS SINS JUST SHOW HOW MUCH ALL OF US ARE WEAK AND NEED TO STAY CLOSE TO GOD IN EVERYTHING WE DO BECAUSE GOD SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN CONTROL OF OUR LIVES IN A PERSONAL WAY.WHO TODAY CAN MAKE À STATEMENT ABOUT DAVIDS LIFE AND IT NE 100% TRUE.THE WRITTEN WORD IS WHAT WÉ LIVE BY AND NOT BY SOMETHING THAT CANNOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN OUR SPIRITUAL GROWTH.I THINK WÉ NEED TO OPEN THÉ SCRIPTURES AND SPEND OUR TIME ON BUILDING UP THE BODY OF CHRIST INSTEAD OF TRACKING DOWN WHO IS FAITHFUL AND WHO IS NOT.EVIDENTALLY DAVID WAS FORGIVEN OF HIS SINS AND HÉ AND THÉ WOMAN HAD À CHILD THAT GOD USED IN A MIGHTY WAY.HIS NAME WAS SOLOMON.AND GOD TOLD DAVID,( I WILL BE HIS FATHER AND HE WILL BE MY SON,I WILL MAKE HIM A MAN OF PEACE ,AND HÉ WILL SIT ON THE THRONE AND WILL BUILD MY TEMPLE. AS WÉ KNOW OF SOLOMON THERE WAS NONE LIKEE HIM BEFORE AND THERE WAS NONE LIKE HIM AFTER.

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    • Thanks for your comment Patricia. The point I was trying to make in this article, is that God does not care who you are and where you came from. For the Jews lineage was very important and through David’s life God was showing them it wasn’t. He can and will use anyone.

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  10. P. V. Cherian says

    Your imagination and fantasy conclusions are appreciated, but has no relevance. Bible clearly gives the genealogy of most important people in the Scriptures and the descendants of Abraham through his wife Sarah, through Sarah’s maidservant Hagar, and through Abraham’s second wife Keturah, whom he married after Sarah’s death. Moreover, the ancestral lines in the patriarchal period from Adam to many generations are clearly given further 1 Chronicle 2:1-9:44. In chapter 2:13-16 Jesse’s sons names are given and it clearly states David was the seventh son of Jesse. Whether they were born in the same mother or different mothers is not a question here as in the patriarchal period it was legally allowed to have many wives and concubines which many patriarch had. Let us stick to the Biblical Scriptures and the reasonable commentaries we have. Any story beyond the Scriptures is irrelevant here and Psalm 69 is a Messianic psalm as is Psalm 22. David may have been despised by some of his older brothers just as Joseph was, who by providence became the Second in Command who God chose and the provider for the Israelites when severe famine hit Israel. God has plan and purpose for everyone who mat even be born out of wedlock.
    Prof. P. V. Cherian, M.Div., Ph. D

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  11. If I may encourage you, and I do not mean to offend, but such conjecture is fruitless discussion (1 Tim. 1:6). For one thing, you are giving Jewish commentaries far too much credibility. Plus, if this totally groundless theory were true, then David would have been a bastard and would not have been allowed to enter into the congregation of the Lord (Deut. 23:2), which he did do, of course, many times with great delight (Ps.42:4). This entire conjectural theory has been discredited long before now, and I would encourage you to pursue more edifying exposition of what the text of Scripture, and that alone, declares.
    — Dr. J. D. Watson, pastor/author
    http://www.TheScriptureAlone.com

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  12. Maureen Brown says

    How amazing is our God. We know that Jesus humbled himself and took on flesh, but he didn’t choose to be born into a “perfect” family. He chose one beset with all the problems / scandals / disputes etc that all of mankind faces. Certainly not what we would have chosen for him, thank God he reigns and we do not. Doesn’t this discussion cause you to appreciate even more what Jesus did for us, and to fall afresh on you knees in wonder and worship?

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  13. OLADIPO ABIMBOLA says

    I was about to continue a teaching on the secret of David in our church when the Holy Spirit led me to your article via the internet. I AM SO BLESSED! When the Holy Spirit led me to announce this study, I knew this is something I needed to know. I knew there is something in the past of David that has shaped him for the future that we see. I couldn’t see it until about 2 hours before the Bible Study time after reading your thoughts. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. In Jesus all veils are taken away so we may understand hidden mysteries. I look forward to the revival this teaching will start in our centre. God specializes in setting our feet upon the rock. Thanks! Thanks!!
    BIMBO
    LAGOS

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  14. Carolyn Doby says

    Sorry, but weighing the meaning of scripture by other scriptures is the safest way to determine meaning. In Ps 86:16, David states, “give thy strength unto thy servant,
    and save the son of thine handmaid”, clearly defining his mother as a servant of God. He does it again in Ps 116:16, “O Lord, truly I am thy servant; I am thy servant, and the son of thine handmaid.” So, if indeed you want to take the literal interpretation of his being “conceived in sin,” then perhaps Jessee raped a virgin and according to law she became his wife. Also, his half sisters could have been conceived after the death and remarriage of his mother – or another of Jessee’s widows. That is all speculation and not to be taught as truth. The truth is that David’s mother was a handmaid of God.

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  15. Adeniji Magbagbeola says

    Interesting indeed.
    Narrations have their shortcomings depending on who gives them and hi or her bias. This brings me to the core issue about whom Jesus Christ is. My view is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and not a Jew being not conceived by the sexual union of a man and a woman as revealed by the narration of His birth. Jesus once ask the followers ‘ who do men say that I am?
    I subdmit that Jesus is the Son of God and all of us who believe are heirs to the coming Kingdom if not then all except the Jews who believe are the most miserable
    Denji

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  16. Gbenga Olaifa says

    What an explosive, comprehensive, expository and informative article! Kudos to the writer…but the truth be told, David is the son of Jesse and biblical inferences established that Jesus Christ emerged from same lineage. We really do not need to be canally minded in interpreting the antecedence of David’s birth, but rather, should require help of the Holy Spirit of God in inquiring about the real truth that lay thereon. Above all, God is not a respecter of persons and will always take delight in using ONLY those whose hearts truly thirst for him – just as he did in the lifes of David, Joseph, Moses, Jephtah, Saul (who later became Paul), etc. God bless you all!
    Gbenga Olaifa, Lagos – Pastor, Bible Teacher and Marriage Counsellor.

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  17. Oladipupo Paul A says

    Let me confess that I’m highly enriched by the content of this article and the following comments of people both in support and as well as in opposition to the writer’s standpoint. May the Lord teach us how to divide His word rightly in Christ Name.
    Oladipupo Paul, Ise-Ekiti, Nigeria.

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  18. Dr.MELCHIZEDEK DEVASIKHAMONY BSc,BDS,BTh,FRSH,PhD. Doctor, Scientist, Bible Teacher and Evangelist. says

    Wow! Amazing! Thanks Brother Dean Smith. Once again thank you for such an eye opening article. Thanks also for the comments. I really enjoyed reading your article and the comments given by all the readers.

    I believe that because David said “And in sin my mother conceived me” Psalm 51:5 (literally an “act of sin”). Since relations between a married man and woman is not considered sin, then something else must have happened.
    David did not try to cover up what had happened. In Ps 86:16, David states, “give thy strength unto thy servant, and save the son of thine handmaid”, clearly defining his mother as a servant of God. He does it again in Ps 116:16, “O Lord, truly I am thy servant; I am thy servant, and the son of thine handmaid.” So, if indeed you want to take the literal interpretation of his being “conceived in sin,” then perhaps Jessee raped a virgin and according to law she became his wife. Also, his half sisters could have been conceived after the death and remarriage of his mother.

    David had two half-sisters (Zeruiah, Abigail)…..:
    1CHR 2:13-16 13 “And Jesse begat his firstborn Eliab, and Abinadab the second, and Shimma the third, 14 Nethaneel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, 15 Ozem the sixth,
    David the seventh: 16 Whose sisters were Zeruiah, and Abigail. And the sons of Zeruiah; Abishai, and Joab, and Asahel, three. 17 And Abigail bare Amasa: and the father of Amasa was Jether the Ishmeelite.
    Ruth 4. 22 And Obed begat Jesse, and Jesse begat David.
    1 Samuel 17. 12 Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehemjudah, whose name was Jesse

    So Bible clearly claims, that David’s father was Jesse, he had begotten David. And the mother of David was also the mother of David’s half-sisters Zeruiah and Abigail
    Yes, we don’t know anything about the mother, but Bible report her as …and the father of David’s half-sisters was not Jesse, but Nahash: 2Sam 17:25 “And Absalom made Amasa captain of the host instead of Joab: which Amasa was a man’s son, whose name was Ithra an Israelite, that went in to Abigail the daughter of Nahash, sister to Zeruiah Joab’s mother.”

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  19. Renrick Hall says

    Good reading and information the it brought out from the other commentators. I have come to accept that the Bible was written in summary – “And it came to pass” (a fact that many Christians do not accept; but eighteen years of Jesus’ life is not mentioned) – so getting some background, and with the other links, this is enlightening.

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