The Center for Medical Progress (CMP) just released its fourth undercover recording of negotiations with staff of Planned Parenthood. CMP uses actors who pretend they are buyers for a human biologic company interested in purchasing harvested organs of aborted babies.
Much of the recent video centers around conversations with Savita Ginde, who serves as Vice President and Medical director at the Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountain (PPRM) based in Denver, Colorado. According to Center for Medical Progress, PPRM does about 10,000 abortions a year.
Ginde says in the video they need to frame the possible contract as research instead of business to avoid contravening federal laws that prohibit the sale of body parts for profit.
“Putting it under research gives us a little bit of a, a little sort of overhang over the whole thing.”
She hints that there is the potential for problems:
“If you have someone in a really anti-state who’s going to be doing this for you, they’re probably going to get caught.”
When CMP’s undercover teams asks for whole parts from a second trimester abortion (14 to 26 weeks), Ginde says there are problems with getting undamaged organs at this age. She responds:
“We have to do a little bit of training with the providers or something to make sure that they don’t crush [the organs].”
During the conversation, the issue of pricing comes up and Ginde agrees to sell harvested organs by the piece instead of a flat fee per baby.
When the group is in what appears to be PPRM’s laboratory, Ginde states “it’s a baby” and points out the various organs in a dish containing an aborted baby about 11 and half weeks old.
When the issue of pricing is brought up again, Ginde replies:
“I think a per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.”
At the end of the video another staff member jokingly pipes up “and another boy” when she recognized the sex.
Under federal law it is illegal to sell body parts for profit, but it is legal to receive compensation for costs, which PP insists it is doing.
A day earlier, a court in California put a temporary restraining order on CMP releasing any tapes specifically involving staff of StemExpress who work in partnership with PP to harvest body parts. CMP says it will aggressively fight this injunction.
However, the court order did not prevent CMP from releasing videos involving people outside StemExpress.
This is not the first time allegations have surfaced of abortionists harvesting and selling baby parts. According to WND, a price list surfaced in 1998 that listed body parts available from babies aborted in the second trimester. Prices ranged from $120 for frozen specimens to $90 for fresh. The list was not from a PP facility.